since we have afaithfulword.com, is it really necessary to continue talking about this?  it's been years already.  if you were at the live training or video training you'd recall brother Minoru saying to move on and not look back. take that as you will, but i feel like you're remaining in something that can damage you and others.  just consider it before the Lord.  instead of pointing out what's right and what's wrong, you could tell us what you enjoyed of Christ and dispense life and encouraging words rather than other things.

azian765, so you're back from your vacation in hell! Do you think we've forgotten who you said you are? As messenger of Satan, didn't you say last October that you are one who brought salutation of Satan  to us? Thanks but no thanks.

Nigel Tomes has all along dissembled his perfidy to Brother Lee's ministry by ostensibly quoting Brother Lee in his overblown writings the past 3 years. Now his opprobrious pretense has finally come to the surface. He has certainly run out of false accusations on how the blending brothers have deviated from Brother Lee because it was one after another proven in afaithfulword that they have not. On the contrary it was repeatedly proven that Nigel has lied and lied again. Now the only way to downplay the blending brothers is to impugn Brother Lee himself. How audacious of him to now subtlely admit he was wrong in attacking the blending brothers in the first place.

His cockeyed statement as pointed out by lordsarmy is alarming. Who's he going to declare as wrong a year from now? Is this a foreborder that Titus Chu will be the next one he's going to vilify? Let's keep our fingers crossed. Let's wait and see how each one's individual ministry as promoted by Titus and now practiced by his "servilely obsequious" workers develop from here. Ciao.

azian765:

Sure Satan is happy because he has someone as ignorant and ignominious as you as his messenger; he's so unhappy because you're doing such a lousy job for him.

Yes Brother Lee is dead, so is Martin Luther. So you throw his teaching of justification by faith to hell and now coming out with another teaching just because he's dead? Pls don't drag us into where you're going and where you rightfully belong. Thanks a lot. You're surely moving one; you're moving back and moving down. That's what you are! So shameful of you to mention Satan more than Christ in this site. Did you count how many times you mentioned Satan and how many times you mentioned Christ less on this site? Look who's talking!!!

Gottsucher, don't be funny and don't be silly. Are you an eyewitness to the incident? Of course not, because as you confessed, you only HEARD about it. There's a name to that for you: HEARSAY!

Do you have a first-hand knowledge of who did that for you to say that it's done by the dear saints who enjoyed the winter training? There's a name to that for you: SPECULATION!

Do you have the conscience to wrongly accuse the innocent saints? Your peevish and baseless accusation is an affront to any blood-washed Christian. There's a name to that for you: THE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN!

gottsucher, it's always good to admit mistake. Your gullibility to baselessly presume and believe that it was saints who attended the winter training who did such baleful acts to the 4 houses is so misguided and wrong. I agree with you that Christians should not behave in such a way to fellow Christians, even to non-Christians. If you're looking at possible connection, don't you think it's more plausible could be aethists who hate the persons living in those houses, knowing they are Christians?

My friend's window glass was hit last week by a flying object. How does it feel like if he blames it on the Ignite kids?

I apologize also for being rude on you in my last post. That's mainly because I was in the winter training, thus your accusation puts me as a suspect of the crime I did not commit.  I do not know about Ignite, but winter training did not teach paintballing; and paintballing isn't by any standard a result of winter training.

We're Christians. We need to love one another and not wrongly accuse one another.

Gottsucher, since you stated that we feel free to correct you for anything offensive that you'd said and wrong details you posted, here they are:

#1:  It's wrong for you be "quite peaceful" on the assumption that it could be atheists who might have paintballed the 4 Christian houses. Why did they not do the same to other unbelievers' houses around them? Could it be that something's wrong with the testimony of those Christians living there? Are you not alarmed with that? Instead of feeling complacent and feel peaceful, don't you think you and the "Christians" who live there need to repent. Is there not the need to preach the gospel to the neighborhood?

#2:  It's wrong for you to unilaterally assume that in the case it's Christians who paintballed the 4 houses are Christians in the Lord's recovery! That's outrageously absurd.

#3:  It's wrong for you to flatly declare in this site that the meetings of the church of the Torontonians that you're attending never speak of any negative things and criticism of Brother Lee and the blending brothers? Have you attended all meetings? Surely not! The vitriolic criticisms by your doctorate co-worker and elder Nigel Tomes in the internet that everybody knows except you is the printed version of the spoken content of your meetings, unless you want to believe that what they're saying in the meeting is different from what they're writing in the internet, and that what they're saying in the meeting is different from what they're doing in their living. In that case, they truly deserved to be paintballed by the unbelievers living around them, if I may so so.  I pity you to be so deluded by your elders to think that they're dispensing life to you when in fact the truculence and gangrene they've disseminated have indeed intoxicated you to the extent that you're so unable to discern death from life. It's no wonder why you feel peaceful when you should be alarmed. You're accusing others for having hatred in this site, but failed to see what hatred your elders have in theirs and spread to others their toxin?

#4:  It's wrong for you to baselessly declare that our meetings, conferences, and trainings are about negative things and criticism. Why? Have you attended all of these meetings for you to accuse us of such? How could you know the content of the conference and training messages when you can't even pronounce straightly the subject of the trainings and the title of the messages? Since you've not heard these messages which allegedly contain negative speaking, how else do you suppose there are criticism in our speaking unless you heard your elders spoke negatively about us? Now do you know where your problem is? 

this was posted also in www.lastadam.com

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Business Meeting @ Montreal
2008-01-15

Dear brothers,

I just got a call from Brothers ___ and ___ that Montreal's business meeting was well attended by 164 saints. All the 7 directors received over 152 votes. The Lord is the Victor, and He vindicated the situation in the church in Montreal completely. Several ballots were spoiled, but the whole atmosphere was jubilant, and filled with joy.

Praise Him, Christ is Victor!

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Saints, I received an email this morning (copy below), regarding the church in Montreal:

'please take note and do pray about the outcome of the vote in Montreal on Tuesday, the 15th.
I was told by someone form the church in Montreal that there is some serious turmoil among the saints there, and that on Tues. there will be a very important vote held there. The continuation of the church life in Montreal hinges on the outcome of that vote. So, please do pray earnestly for this situation.'

Lord, thank You that You are the Lord of the heavens and the earth. Thank You that it matters to You, concerning Your testimony in each city, the lampstands that You have established. Lord, We stand with Your authority and Your expression in Montreal. Lord, strenthen the saints, uplift and manifest what You are doing in Montreal, for Your economy, for the preparation of Your Bride, for Your return. Vindicate and establish Your testimony of oneness in the church in Montreal. Lord, fully bind, cast out and shame Your enemy's activity there. Thank You that he is in the lake of fire! May the saints who are for Your testimony sense Your peace and rest, Your prevailint pre-eminence there, for Your testimony.

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PRAISE THE LORD, HE IS THE GOD OF RECOVERY. SHAME TO THE ENEMY!!!!!!!!

It should be recalled that over 3 years ago, Titus's junior cohort Nigel Tomes started to write articles after articles ocontaining baneful but nonetheless risible wrangles to malign the blending brothers, repeatedly alleging that they've deviated from brother Lee's teachings and practices. He had the effrontery to do that, calling himself a "policeman" in the Lord's recovery, because according to him, brother Lee had called for such, but ironically, to "catch" fiendish dissenters much like Nigel himself.

Now just a few years later, Nigel is barefacedly attacking brother Lee himself. That's it!  What a hoax!!! Isn't it time to return the "policeman batch" to brother Lee and have his hands cuffed instead of further writing bumptious but disreputable trash to continue deceiving the saints?

Nigel, you've got to instill some fear of God in you and stop!

@cafefelix - I could be wrong but I assume you're replying to me since you posted right after me.

No, I haven't shown this site to my mom or to LSM elders. What's your point? About behavioral health issues? That's exactly what lordsarmy's saying and I'm agreeing: the coworkers of Titus, especially Nigel Tomes, is a profligate writer who spread lies and baseless attacks and now coming up with more lies and attacks this time against brother Lee himself, whose writing he's quoted time and again earler on.

That's one sentence. You want another one? He's a chameleon not worthy of any trust in whatever he's saying now, for he'll change his mind again and change the object of his attack the next time around to who knows who!

What's so complicated about the way I word things? You can ask your mom to buy you an English dictionary not for grade-schoolers. That's how simple it is.