How beautiful life they have which is given by God, the Father!!

It would be better to encouraging than discouraging youths.

Once your  are youths, now you are grown-ups in the Lord.

But always rejoice! Not only we were youths before, but also we have the youths of ower own from God, the Father. Praise the Lord!!! Amen.

this was the best camp ever ignite was so fun, praise the lord, we learned so much there, the powersessions were alsome and the activities were good, the hospitality was pretty amazing too,. and also very good songs

I hate to say I told everyone so, but sometime ago I did say that Nigel will soon come clean publicly on how he has been against Brother Lee and his ministry all along. In the past six months he has done just that. His latest one now defends their Ignite and Mountaintop and "Christian rock".

It is really sad how the Torontonian brothers have been deceived by the devil. In trying to be different from the uniqueness of the Lord's recovery and in their effort to be closer to Christianity and accept/be accepted by it, they have introduced various strange fires into the church, resulting in the usurpation of the Christian heritage of the young ones. This opens a Pandora's box that will inevitably bring in more worldly mixture, even Satanic things, among the young ones. May the Lord shine through and open the way for these young ones to be released from the power of darkness!

"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate" Titus 1:16.

"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him....For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works" 2 Corinthians 11:3,4,13-15.

"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ....Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities....Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Korah. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever" Jude 4,8,11-13.

"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things" (Phil 3:18,19).

"Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes" (Rom 3:13-18).

Ohbrolee, you are right. All the verses apply to me when I serve in my natural man, when I offer strange fire to God. It is God's mercy and grace to purge us of all evil mixture of leaven, of the corruption which is in the world by lust, of that we and our works may be able to stand the test of fire on that day.

I totally agree that we need to watch out! We need to be alert lest we be tossed about by winds of teaching in the sleight of men so that we would not be robbed of our purity and simplicity, and of the rich enjoyment of Christ in His church. May God so grant such discernment to the young ones who may be confused and confounded by the unabated attacks from the enemy perpetrated through lawless men and their different teachings.

In the Spirit I can really see that the Lord is so big, so profound, so rich, so colorful...He is righteous, but He is also a friend of us... My dearest brothers and sisters, repent in front of the Lord for being so mean towards other brothers and sisters...A christian without a balanced vision is quite dangerous...

Lord is good...He will take care of us...Remember that He loved us and He hope us to pass that love to others...even including non-believers....

I weep in the Lord for seeing so much "truth", "love" and "life" in all negative comments there... But the point is where the Lord is? Lord, I repent before you....enlargen us...show us your love in everything...

Can someone here explain to me this doctrine of music being evil?

I've always wondered about this.  Obviously, some have posted here saying that Christian "rock" is bad.  I would like to know why it is.  What chords, progressions, and rhythms are sanctified and which ones are "of the devil"?

Did you know that the word, "music" is found only once in the New Testament?  It's Luke 15:25 and refers to the celebration going on upon the return of the prodigal son.  That's also the only verse that talks mentions "dancing."

So let me see if I understand this-

Music and dancing are mentioned as forms of celebration in the New Testament.  But they have no role in praising God?

Further-

Please explain what you mean, in a practical way, when you say-

"the difference between enjoying the Lord and enjoying the soul"

-keeping the context of what you were referring to.  Not the thought in general, but how do you know that these kids were doing one and not the other.